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TOC issue Edit

Hi. Ich mache das mal auf Englisch, damit auch alle mitlesen können... ;)

I couldn't reproduce this issue, everything seems perfectly normal. Could you try to a) force a reload of the main.css, and if that doesn't help, b) log out to see if it has to do with your custom css file (although unlikely). The definitions in the main.css seem to be just as they are supposed to be. Thanks. -- Cid Highwind 20:52, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Bot questionsEdit

I got two quick questions about wiki/bots, and it seems you would probably be the best to ask. First, &bot=1, does this feature no longer work since the wikicities upgrade? Second, I've looked into the pages you suggested to me several months ago about bot's (as I've been interested in creating one) but I am apparently not understanding how the process works. Do you know of a "bot for dummies" way to go about doing it? Aside from downloading the package from the bot program page you referenced, I'm not seeing how a folder of various files on my desktop is supposed to work in conjunction with M/A. Is there an intermediary program or coding that I need to do or what? Any assistance/advice you could offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! --Alan del Beccio 20:27, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Witch Hunts Edit

I would appreciate if, in future, you not refer to people questioning whether articles have been appropriately cited to valid or permitted resources as "witch hunts". A witch hunt implies a motivation to harass someone through ostensibly legitimate proceedings. That means you are claiming in this case that I have improper motives, illegitimate questions, or both. I take offense at that, as I suspect most people would. The whole point of this site is to question and change. See the FAQs of this site: "the wiki allows an easy, free exchange of information that allows false or misleading information to be quickly corrected"; "There's no specific author who can claim that they wrote all of the articles, so it's perfectly all right to dive right in and add your own ideas to make the article better — as long as you follow the rules, of course!" If you have anything that gives support to your claims that I am conducting a witch hunt, please let me know. If not, I think I am owed a public apology. Aholland 12:28, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, maybe the analogy to a witch hunt is not perfect, but the recent attitude change (especially regarding the class vessels) it seems that the majority of entries will soon go, because there are a hell of articles created with citation not available to everyone (that is btw. one of the reasons this encyclopedia was created). Beside nominating pages for deletion there is the first option to mark a page as needing attention or being inaccurate. Then there is still the way to the deletion page. -- Kobi - (Talk) 13:43, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
  1. It wasn't an analogy you used, though. You stated very clearly that the desire to delete articles like the USS Chekov was a "witch hunt". I would still like an apology for that since it was to my efforts on the USS Chekov, put forth in detail and in good faith, that the comment was directed.
  2. Also, just so you know, the reason Memory Alpha was created (at least the stated reason) was to update the Star Trek Encyclopedia and become the "single, definitive resource where all of that knowledge can be found." (See Memory Alpha:General FAQ). I cannot find a similar statement that the goal was to catalog information derived from privately held sources not publically available for review, although I'm happy to be pointed in that direction. Aholland 14:05, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

calling for vote comments recommending halt to info removal Edit

[[1]] -- Captain M.K.B. 04:45, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

MA-fr Edit

the change you made on monobook seem to have created a bug. The Google bar is now hiding a good part of the text in preview and the navigation bar (left) goes at the bottom of the page (even under the edit box). Furtermore, the icons b, i, [ab]... aren't here anymore. - Philoust123 15:05, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Hardcoded cell width Edit

I'd not noticed that until you pointed it out! Its certainly something worth working on. In the meanwhile, it won't actually affect many actors, since there's only one actor with 12 characters. I'll have a look through the tables with 4 characters, and see if I can work something out. Thanks for the positive feedback! Zsingaya 13:44, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

  • If you look at something like Alan Altshuld, the cells seem to be evenly spaced. I wonder if there's a reason for this? Zsingaya 13:46, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Yeah, I've seen the bit on the monobook that specifies 33% width. I don't think there's any such restriction with the "grey" tables, is there? LOL, and no, I'm not going to go around changing them all to "grey", that would take an age to sort out! Well, not very long actually, but it would be a bit of a faff to do... I've fortuately got an entire list of all the picture tables on my userpage :-P Zsingaya 13:58, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I've submitted the page you gave me to browsershots and it seems to be no good idea at all to have four images in a row ... if you have a list then I can have look what my bot could do about it, it can change all instances of 'class="browser"' to 'class="grey"' automatically. Meanwhile I also discovered a page where I changed the tables to grey: Tim Russ and J. Paul Boehmer, though I fear having five pictures in a row is only an option for highres monitors. -- Kobi - (Talk) 14:51, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

  • I appreciate the effort on your part here, Kobi. However, I think the edits that will be needed might be more than one bot can handle. The list is freely available on my userpage, so I might just have a go at changing them one after the other. I don't like the "grey" tables, since you have to add more HTML tags to the script, and, they don't quite look the same as the "mainpage" ones. OK, I've got a few hours to have a go at sorting out a few pages. :-) Zsingaya 15:22, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
    • OK, I've changed Vaughn Armstrong's page, and, you're right, it looks much better. :-) On my computer, the pages with four images across don't look too bad, and I'm not sure how best to otherwise arrange the images. Hmm...Zsingaya 15:29, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
      • OK, Kobi, I've done what I can with the tables that I know exist. The tables with four pictures have all been converted to "grey" format, which I think solves that problem. Any tables with 5 pictures have been kept as "mainpage", but split into two levels (one level with 3 pics, one with 2). I did the same with pages with 7, 8 and 13 pictures, so there's no "mainpage" tables with more than three images across the page. I hope this has sorted this mini-problem out! Zsingaya 17:06, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Edit

OK, cool, thanks Kobi! :) -- Renegade54 16:01, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Disambiguation Links Edit

In terms of the disambiguation links, I started with a couple of them because I kept coming across them and getting sent to the disambiguation pages. So, I decided that it was worth my time to start fixing some of them. I've also been trying to expand the disambiguation pages a bit (as in, adding some text to explain each link/item/what-have-you) along the way. I'd be happy to work with you and 'Morn' to work on cleaning the rest of these up -- I've done all of M-Z now (with 2-3 exceptions in 'M'), however we want to sort that out is fine by me. Just let me know.

One side note though, on some of the disambiguation pages, there are occasional links to episodes (as references generally). The idea of not having 'other' links on the pages makes sense, but I do believe that episode references should still be left on those pages.

Finally, the rifle disambig page (I think) should be expanded into an actual reference page. I've made a _very_ rudimentary start toward this, but it does need a lot of work yet. -- Sulfur 17:40, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

And a followup, two links that can be hit up for disambiguation heavily are 'Kirk' and 'Kira'. I don't mind doing them by hand, but if Morn can be used to bash them through quickly, that means that I can deal with a few others (the last 4-5 I've done have had a total split between a wide variety of the available options, but Kirk and Kira seem to be almost exclusively James T. Kirk and Kira Nerys). -- Sulfur 03:16, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Neural parasite links Edit

Hiya, Kobi. Could you do me a favor and have Morn change all the links to Neural parasite (TOS) and Neural parasite (TNG) to Neural parasite (23rd century) and Neural parasite (24th century), respectively? It would be greatly appreaciated. Thanks in advance. :) --From Andoria with Love 16:27, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

RE: Hey, Kobi. Thanks for handling the redirects. No need to apologize, though; there was no real need to rush and all that matters is that it got done. At least, I think that's all that matters... hmm, yeah, I'm relatively sure that's all that matters... but don't quote me on that. :-P Anyways, thanks again. :-) --From Andoria with Love 05:01, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Another bot request Edit

Hey, Kobi. I have another bot request: when you get the time, could you please have Morn change all the Regeneration links to Regeneration (episode)? Thanks in advance. :) --From Andoria with Love 05:05, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Forum system for TF Edit

I have imported all the old topics and set up the forum system at ten forward. There are a couple things left to do. First MediaWiki:Monobook.css needs to be edited by you or another admin. I posted what needs to be added on the talk page there. Second thing is that the server seems to always send a cached copy of the Ten Forward page, so it only updates after an edit of Ten Forward itself, or by using ?action=purge in the url. I have added a quick fix link at TF until it can be corrected properly. Do you know what the problem is? --Bp 03:14, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

The cache problem is fixed. So all that is left is the css additions. --Bp 05:53, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Strike that. The cache problem remains. Only some of the time though. --Bp 06:02, 13 May 2006 (UTC)


The page is locked from editiing so I can't try to fix it anymore. I think the problem still exists but someone clicks the refresh link often enough that it appears to work. Anyway, you should change the notice to something like:
If this list does not appear to be up to date, click this link to force it to refresh.
...or something similar. --Bp 03:06, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Yet another bot request Edit

Hey again, Kobi. Sorry to keep bothering you with these bot requests. When you get the time, could you please change all the links for Muse to Muse (episode)? Thanks a bunch, and I'll see ya on IRC sometime. :) --From Andoria with Love 03:42, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: Bot requestsEdit

Thanks for doing that. I know that's why you created the bot, but I think that's the third request in a week, so... yeah, thought it might be getting a bit annoying, but I'm glad to hear it's no bother. Anyways, I don't think there's anyplace where the link needs to be "Muse" only; it's original location, Muse (title), was an orphaned article. Nonetheless, I'll check 'em out. Thanks again. :)

Everything checks out; the links link to where they need to link to. :-P Thanks again! --From Andoria with Love 15:03, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

re: use the preview Edit

I generally do use the preview; that time however what I was looking at was so massive that I hit save several times before catching the errors.

As for deleting someone else's comment, I was doing so partly on someone else's request. I don't delete comments just because I don't like them; if the comment is relevant to the discussion in some way I do the civilized thing and just post a response to it. I would have done exactly that if the comment was actually part of the serious discussion at hand, and not a crude and offensive attempt at humor at my country's expense. What if it had been a racist or anti-Semitic comment; would you still have been so keen to leave it up there for a year, much less re-insert it when someone removes it? May I kindly suggest that the discussion pages be moderated to prevent abuse of the kind I was trying to repair.--Antodav 12:10, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Bot requestsEdit

Enlisted personnelEdit

I humbly request Morn's assistance in categorizing Starfleet enlisted personnel into Category:Starfleet enlisted personnel. If this is impossible, please disregard.--Tim Thomason 21:29, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

DateLink?Edit

I noticed you changing the date links on the Nemesis movie page. Just figured that it might be an idea to ensure that you knew about the datelink template: {{d|13|December|2002}} (just as CaptainMike did for me...). If you did know about it, no worries, and sorry for the bother.  :) -- Sulfur 15:57, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Doh! I was the first to reply on its creation -- but forgot about this feature already :D thanks for bringing it back to my mind. -- Kobi 16:04, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Tasha Yar (the vandal user)Edit

If you go through the delete/block logs, you'll likely notice that the same user was blocked 2-3 days ago. For the same crap. Just as an aside. -- Sulfur 19:13, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Scientists Edit

Hey, Kobi. Could you have Morn categorize all of the individuals listed on the scientist page with the scientists category? Thanks in advance! :) --From Andoria with Love 14:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Cite plugin Edit

It's far neater and more professional looking than italicised inline notes and/or the episode citation style currently used (there would need to be a community decision over which place to use it in, but I'm betting the former). You're right about that. However, adding footnotes to things like Aurulent doesn't go against policy or current conventions (it adds a new convention and level of accessibility). Normality 10:00, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Broken Bow links Edit

Hello, again, Kobi. I have another bot request for ya: could you please change all the links to Broken Bow to Broken Bow (episode)? I've done a few of them myself, since I didn't really have anything else to do, but I'm tired now, lol. Thanks a bunch in advance. :) --From Andoria with Love 17:31, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

  • PS: I don't know if you can, but you may want to program the bot not to touch those I've already fixed, since some of the links to Broken Bow on those articles are supposed to be there. --From Andoria with Love 17:34, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Will do so after dinner ... Kobi 17:37, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Awesome. Thanks again. :) --From Andoria with Love 17:42, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

And Broken Bow (city) should go to Broken Bow (the town/village/whatever) in the end too :) -- Sulfur 17:41, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

IRC Edit

Hi Kobi! welcome back! :-) Come to IRC if you find the time. --Jörg 11:48, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

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