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First contactEdit

Come to think of it, there is not even any evidence to support the theory that the mirror universe's version of events was actually Earth's first contact! --Defiant | Talk 23:39, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It was the first Vulcan that (officially) set foot on Earth at least. --Dalen 22:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Yes, but who's to say that the humans didn't already meet members of the Vulcan species in space? --Defiant | Talk 08:28, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Or other species... 62.254.0.18
I am sorry to say, but, you guy's think to much. --TOSrules 22:07, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)
The audio commentary implies it was first contact there too. Jaz 21:34, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Archive footage? Edit

I'm confused. If this is archive footage, then how does he shoot the Vulcan and have the stuff happen from that point on? --Trekey 13:50, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Everything up to the point of Cochrane attempting to do the Vulcan salute is archived footage from Star Trek First Contact. Everything after that is new. --Alan 15:42, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

So then... did they use Cromwell for the new footage? And if so, why wasn't he credited? --Trekey 18:55, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

There was no new Cromwell footage in this episode. All the close-up shots of the crowd (namely the Grizzled Man and Girl) were new shots, during the landing sequence, the rest were "archive footage". In order to use the footage from the film, they had to get clearance from James Cromwell and Cully Fredricksen, other than that, after "Cochrane" (who's face we didn't see, but was actually a double) pulled the gun from his coat and shot the Vulcan (beginning of the new footage) there was actually no point that Cochrane's face appeared (he was looking back waving everyone into the ship). --Alan 19:16, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


Ownership of Cochrane's rifleEdit

The Memory Alpha articles suggest that the rifle Cochrane used belonged to Jonathan Archer by 2154, however the rifle was part of the ready room's display [in place of the "Enterprise history" portraits in the primary universe], not in Archer's quarters. So either the rifle belonged to Forrest, as he was the captain of the Enterprise, or Starfleet. It might be possible for it to be Archer's if he'd actually take the time to redecorate the ready room following the mutiny against Forrest. --Vern4760 13:03, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

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