On some pages, I've linked "Vulcan Ministry of Security" or "Defense" (etc.) to V'Shar, as it seems like they're the same thing. Would anyone be opposed to redirects to V'Shar? Satok was the Minister of Security, and it's called the Ministry of Security, it doesn't seem like a stretch that they'd be the same thing. - AJHalliwell 02:21, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

So, is the Vulcan Security Directorate (with Chief Investigator Stel) the same thing also? It seemed to exist at the same time as the Ministry, so it could just be another name for it, or maybe they were so "warlike" that they had a Directorate and a Ministry.--Tim Thomason 06:59, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

• I think the ENT references should be kept separate from the TNG references, just like Starfleet and Starfleet (Earth) are kept separate, especially when it comes to agencies in existance during pre-Federation eras. I think the only two TNG Vulcan security references that come to mind are from "Unification II" and "Gambit, Part II" -- one appeared to be in defense of the planet, the other was the V'Shar. --Alan del Beccio 07:07, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)