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Peer review

I put this article up for FA status but a few users thought it was good, but could be better, and suggested a peer review. So here we are.

Some things that have been mentioned are better organization, a few missing references (the personal site-to-site transporter that Tom Paris used, possibly the proto-type personal transporter from Nemesis), and other things.

Personally I think the article might do well with a better breakout of types of transporter technology (Federation vs. Romulan vs. Dominion vs. Borg). It could also do with perhaps a few more pictures, a little more on the technology (confinement beam, etc) and related technology (transport enhancers, inhibitors). And also the non-standard uses such as Scotty did in Relics, and how Voyager hid the telepaths in that one episode.

What else? Logan 5 16:37, 2 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Well, the first thing I usually do with pages like this is go through the What links here page, to see what references we've missed out. Is there a mention of the transporter aliens that Barclay could see in whateverepisodeitwas? Also, each transporter accident could be described. Perhaps I'll do that bit... Zsingaya ^Talk 08:41, 3 Dec 2005 (UTC) I did some, and I'll come back later on today and finish them off. :-) This is going to be a BFP, lol (sorry, I just watched Doom at the cinema.) Zsingaya ^Talk 09:17, 3 Dec 2005 (UTC)

My immediate opinion is that there needs to be some major restructuring in the Article... I would suggest first moving the history section further down in the article. Start with a description of basic concepts of transporters and include the limitations section (which should be shortened a bit to be more concise.) Then include the history section which too could be more concise. Then the accidents section needs rework. Instead of a new subject heading for each of the accidents I would group them by type. For example "Rocks embedded in skin" and "Accidental deaths" both describe malfunctions that rematerialized individuals with foreign matter. "Split one entity into good and evil entities," "Split one entity into two identical entities," and "Two entities merged into one" all describe the merging or splitting of individuals during rematerialization. Overall the article has a great base to build upon, however, it is lacking in flow and structure.--Jlandeen 05:17, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Would-be STXI Use

Early drafts of Star Trek showed that, in an emergency, it was possible to beam a child out of a womb, but at the cost of the mother's life (young Kirk would've been born this way) - according to a DVD commentary, though Abrams regarded this as a "really cool" idea, it was dropped because the production staff didn't want to introduce the transporter so early in the film, and felt that the traumatic scene needed the "victory" of Winona Kirk's survival.

I'd like to add this to the article, but I'm not exactly sure where to place it - any suggestions?--Ten-pint 21:51, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

A new subsection to the background section. --Pseudohuman 00:50, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks - wasn't sure between that or bginfo box under uses, so I figured I'd put it here and let the site decide. --Ten-pint 07:10, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Note also that this same procedure was used without any incident (and treated as quite safe for all involved) in VOY: "Deadlock" to deliver Naomi Wildman. (Granted, she *did* die shortly afterwards, but that wasn't because of the transporter; that was due to her incubator shutting down due to loss of power to sickbay. Her duplicated counterpart in that same episode experienced no such incubator failure, and both mother and child survived just fine.) Granted, that was a hundred years later and transporter technology had advanced somewhat, but it's probably best that they dropped the scene so as to not introduce another tricky wrinkle in the fabric of continuity. :-) -Mdettweiler 18:18, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Beam me up Scotty

In at least two TAS episodes "Beam us upp Scotty" is heard. Swedish Doctor 23:53, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

TOS Digital effects?

At 7.1.3 Special effects, the transporter effect is referred to as a digital composition. Digital? In 1964? --GNDN 21:38, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

I also found this at least questionable when I read it (upon adding some more info to that section). --Defiant 01:14, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't seem supported by the citation offered. Feel free to replace it with the proper terminology; I'm afraid I don't know much about special effects myself. –Cleanse ^{( talk | contribs )} 04:57, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

It actually isn't cited, Cleanse; I added the citation for the next sentence after that one. --Defiant 08:34, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Changed and removed. --Defiant 08:41, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Restructuring this page

Please see Cid's comment at Talk:Transporter platform- but in short, there may be a need to restructure and perhaps split up this page(and other pages).--31dot 17:53, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

I would agree. "operations" and "special operations" segments could be moved to a "Transporter operations" article and "Transporter accidents" could be a page of its own. Maybe even "Transporter limitations". Much of the technical info could be relocated to the transporter pad article that concern the systems that are used in the pads. Warp drive article seems to be a good model, it only has short general description, all the related links, and text about the development history. Everything else has a page of its own. --Pseudohuman 18:03, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

But if we erase the transporter page, some people might think it's a bit odd, since the transporter is such a cultural icon. Are we considering making it a disambig or something? --Defiant 22:24, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

No no, i was not suggesting erasing the transporter page. Just that the transporter page would only contain similar info along the lines of what the warp drive page does now, and all the other stuff would be relocated that are cluttering the page at the moment. --Pseudohuman 09:03, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

Site-to-Site Transport

I think an additional system component needs to be listed, the site-to-site transporter.

VOY episode "Concerning Flight" suggests that a site-to-site transport utilizes a separate system from the main transporter. Janeway refers to a device stolen from Voyager as a site-to-site transporter and is able to successfully transport without the device being attached to the rest of Voyager's systems suggesting it works independently. 12.48.141.114 20:49, October 4, 2011 (UTC)