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StarTrek.com spells it "Subcommander" and not "Sub-Commander". I believe the Encyclopedia agrees. Alex Peckover

Or does it? ;) --Steve 17:42, 11 Jun 2004 (CEST)

The Encyclopedia agrees with me, anyway. :-) Alex Peckover 19:30, Jun 11, 2004 (CEST)

Superiority over CommanderEdit

As far as I'm aware, the statement that subcommander is treated as above the Starfleet rank commander comes only from the example of T'Pol. Since she was first officer, she would have authority over commander-rank individuals on Enterprise regardless, in the same way that Doctor Crusher (who is also a commander) was subordinate to Riker on the Enterprise D. Unless there's more evidence for the statement (which, I suppose, is what I'm asking), I think it should be corrected/clarified that subcommander is most likely equivilent to a Starfleet commander, as Vulcan captain/commander is most likely equal to Starfleet captain. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sman789 (talk • contribs).

"a Vulcan subcommander has been treated as being a grade below a Starfleet captain and above a Starfleet commander."

This statement makes no sense. There IS no rank between Star Fleet Commander and Captain. Therefore, a Sub-Commander would be equivalent to a Commander. Just as in the real world Navy, ultimate authority derives from position in the command group. A ship's first and second officers may both be commanders, but the second officer takes orders from the first. In much the same way, T'Pol became first officer over Trip, though both were considered commanders (and why didn't Trip have to wear the shiny spandex suits? But I digress).

The real question lies in what to call a Vulcan commanding officer? Typically, they are referred to as Captains, but if their seconds are sub-commanders, shouldn't they be Commanders? Though they would still be equivalent to Star Fleet Captains (just as Army Colonels are equivalent to Navy Captains).

It all depends on what we decide the translation of "Khart-lan" is (the Vulcan word for the officer equivalent to Captain). 96.224.225.227

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