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Re: Factual accuracy

We still have to decide if we want to include cut scenes as valid information. I'm not generally opposed to that, but we shouldn't create pages like this (or link it on other pages) before that. -- Cid Highwind 12:58, 15 Jun 2004 (CEST)

The scene is included on the DVD version of the movie. So, are DVDs and VHSs canon? --BlueMars 14:07, Jun 15, 2004 (CEST)
I know. The possibly inclusion of cut scenes is currently being discussed here. -- Cid Highwind 14:29, 15 Jun 2004 (CEST)
The character appears on the script. His scene was only cut out for the theatre release... I think we should include it Ottens 11:58, 23 Jul 2004 (CEST)
When the Nemesis Special Edition DVD comes out later this year, rumor has it that a lot of deleted scenes will be put into the movie. If this scene is put in, does that count has canon then? Kevin 21:53, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC
Possibly, although I thought I read in an interview with Berman in "Star Trek: Communicator" that deleted scenes probably won't be put back in. I may be wrong though. - AJHalliwell 21:55, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)
His scene was included in the first edition of the DVD. I don't believe any scenes will be re-added to the film itself. The debate continues. --Shran 21:56, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Speculatory Note - Hayes/Madden

Greetings, I recently removed a speculatory note that J. Hayes is related to Martin Madden. Apart from being played by the same actor, it is too vague to make such a comment on relation to the two characters. - Enzo Aquarius 12:32, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Wording?

The line about Marty Madden and John Logan seems a bit contrived. I realise that some people might miss the subtlety of it, but why spell out that Logan is gay? Or if you feel we must, why isn't it in the main article about him, instead of hidden away over here? Surely, it's enough to state here, for example:

'This character was named after Marty Madden, long-time partner of screenwriter John Logan.'

And if people can't figure out for themselves what that implies, that's their loss. Unless I'm the one who's missing something? - Spatula 22:34, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree. If he wasn't we wouldn't say "heterosexaul screenwriter". Jaz talkFile:United Federation of Planets logo.png 21:54, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps there's an issue of phrasing - "partner" can mean writing partner or business partner, as well as life partner.
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