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Human?Edit

I had always assumed he was human, but I suppose he could have been an alien. If you want, why don't you edit the page to reflect your point? BTW, thanx to whoever touched up the page. User: Imperator

I'm afraid I haven't seen the episode in question ("Whom Gods Destroy"), so we need someone to put it in. --Brad Rousse 19:34, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Umm, are we sure he was a human? I don't recall the reference being that specific. --Alan del Beccio 20:03, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
I think a Diane Carey novel transcribes this as "Li Quan" -- spelling aside, I believe Alan is right, we can't really speculate as to who he was.-- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk 20:10, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Lee Kuan is also mentioned in "Patterns of Force" and clearly stated to have been an "Earthman". Kennelly 12:04, 29 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Cool, I, for one, am glad to see this was straightened out. --Alan del Beccio 18:44, 29 Oct 2005 (UTC)
um...isn't is supposed to be Lee Kuan as in Lee Kuan Yew, the benevolent Singaporean dictator? Around 1968 many people would have recognized the reference. This is late 60's political commentary! The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.134.95.124 (talk).
I'm not sure, especially Garth's lineup of figures seems to include people who tried to build a vast empire, which Singapore obviously is not. Kennelly 17:54, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
At least he didn't in our reality, but then the same goes for Khan....--Alan del Beccio 17:58, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Lee Kuan Yew Edit

I disagree with removing the {{incite}} tag from this article's background section. It's nothing but speculation about what the producers might have been referencing and how they might have made a mistake in the last name. We shouldn't just throw these claims around without some basis.

Having said that, this probably is a reference to Lee Kuan Yew, but I'm sure there's a reference somewhere in one of the TOS reference books (which I don't own unfortunately). Often these really obvious things do indeed have a reference (The Maltese Falcon and "The Big Goodbye" for example). If we leave the incite, someone might come along and add the definitive reference.

As the page is, it suggests to the reader that no citation is needed for things that are "apparent" to at least one user, which encourages further speculation on other pages, which may not be as reasonable.– Cleanse 00:15, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't agree that [1] "A citation for something that's apparent" is not required, because I don't believe it's "apparent" enough to be self-evident, and i don't agree that "common sense and the word "apparently" will have to do". I do agree that "a source confirming it was a reference to the real life Lee Kuan would be great". I completely agree with the original incite tagger [2]: Whoever contributed "Lee Kuan is apparently a reference to Lee Kuan Yew" was an original researcher. It's interesting and plausible enough that I think we should keep it, but let's keep the incite tag juuuust in case someone is inspired to provide a confirmation in the future. --TribbleFurSuit 00:20, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
I wasn't a big fan of it, so tried rewriting the entire chunk. No more speculation, simply noting that they share names. That's it. -- Sulfur 01:12, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
All I can said is, good luck asking the writer what his/their intentions were, all three contributors to those two cited episodes are dead. --Alan 02:51, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

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