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Colloquial usageEdit

I think a citation is required (I couldn't find one) for usage in this sense. There was an early episode where Janeway invites Kim to express his opinion -- I would take that as proof of his inclusion into Voyager's senior staff, but whether or not he is actually referred to as the "junior" officer of the senior staff may need a specific citation. I consider usage in the sense of "junior" members of the Supreme Court or a "junior" member of an away team (like the Doctor in (VOY: "Warhead")) is somewhat dubious, since this is about junior officers and not subordinate members. This is why I turned it into an editor's note. Discuss! --vorik111 01:38, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I guess I should have labeled this a "stub." :) That works unless something more concrete turns up. Part of the problem is that it seems a lot of naval terminology has multiple meanings and people don't always recognize that there's a difference. Strictly speaking, a junior officer is an ensign or lieutenant. But if Picard was the only captain in a room full of admirals, he's junior to them all so he might be referred to as the "junior officer" in conversation ("colloquially"). It may have been used that way in some episode but I couldn't say. But if it was, I didn't want someone to claim that means a captain is also a junior officer all the time so I added the "colloquially" line. (I believe that words mean the same thing in Trek that they do today unless someone proves otherwise.) --StarFire209 02:46, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

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