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From the first line of this article, do we need a disambiguation page for the term "Child's Play"? --Mgg4 23:01, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
- If we made another page, it would be "child's play"..
- Is "child's play" really a valid topic to have its own article? I'm not so sure -- Captain M.K.B. 23:21, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Possible Timeline Inconsistency I Edit
It does not seem to make sense that Seven accepts Leucon's explanation of how Icheb came to be assimilated. When he is first reunited with his parents, his mother comments that he's grown and Seven notes that he spent several 'months' in a Borg maturation chamber.
First, maybe his folks didn't have their cover stories straight because if Icheb was assimilated 4 years prior, as his father would later contend, then his mother's remark that he'd grown seems out of place. I know, Yifay could have been fumbling for something to say, blurted out something obvious in her awkward attempt to connect with her long lost son but it makes more sense that she was marveling at how he'd grown noticeably in only a few months. Leucon heard this but didn't incorporate it into his detailed cover story to Seven.
Second, the 'several' months that Seven acknowledges Icheb spent in a maturation chamber don't really jibe with her then accepting that he'd been a drone for few 'years' by the time Voyager liberated him, without question. And, remember, we know from the episode "Collective" that he and the other children only emerged from their neonatal alcoves shortly before encountering Voyager. One explanation could be that Seven allowed for the idea that Icheb might not have spent his entire time since assimilation in a maturation chamber but then where would he have spent his time, hanging out around the cube? Doubtful: Seven, herself, spent six or seven years from assimilation to complete maturation in a chamber where the "chaos" and "turmoil" in her mind was replaced with the order which has since come to serve as "a source of strength" to her in regaining her humanity. ("Collective").
I'm new to MA and for various reasons have far too much time on my hands (since I'm starting to worry about things I never noticed before but, fear not, I'll be going over my issues in group...) Anyway, I didn't want to add any types of questions along these lines to the main article without getting some input. Could I add some thing more succinct about this apparent inconsistency to the Background section of the article (succinct is not my forte but I'd work on it)? Are these useful or valid observations? Thx. PogaGirl 19:59, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- First, maybe his folks didn't have their cover stories straight because if Icheb was assimilated 4 years prior, as his father would later contend, then his mother's remark that he'd grown seems out of place.
- Not at all. Growing up, relatives and others that I hadn't met in a long time would always comment on how much I'd grown, even if my growth rate was normal. Didn't you get that growing up? 22.214.171.124 22:35, September 14, 2012 (UTC)
Removed comment Edit
Removed the following, as it doesn't really pertain to the episode, though it does to the two actors. Should be on their page, if it isn't already.--31dot 14:15, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- "Eric Ritter and Mark Sheppard worked together before on Martial Law in the second season episode (Thieves Among Thieves)."
- I also removed:
- "Seven of Nine mentions in this episode that she has not seen her parents since being assimilated. In the previous season (VOY: "Dark Frontier"), she encountered her father in person. This may indicate that she realizes being a drone robs one of their humanity and that her father was lost to her following his assimilation."
- "In this episode's teaser, Seven of Nine says simply "Naomi" (rather than "Naomi Wildman"). This is the second time in the series she does this. The first being in (VOY: "Infinite Regress") while playing kadis-kot with Naomi in a different personality."
- Rather speculative and nittish. --Alan
- Removed another BG note about Seven's contradiction regarding never seeing her parents again. Same info above. Nitpick.MajorTom1 16:37, December 18, 2011 (UTC)
Grammar/sentence structure needs cleaning up here. I'm not averse to the odd sentence or two beginning with 'And' or 'But', but here we have no less than 20 sentences beginning with 'But' (including some paragraphs!) which has gotta be some kind of record... --CoffeeBlack 13:41, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
The way this lengthy summary goes into details is, excuse me, a little bit ridiculous. It even describes in detail how Paris pushes a button and how it looks when the Voyager goes to warp.... -- SaganamiFan 08:54, June 1, 2010 (UTC)