Talk:Armus/archive

Armus History

You know, I disagree with the author's interruption on Armus' history. I kind of think that he spawn a race of demons who "grew" a second skin and left him. BigGator5

Armus displays Q like powers, is it possible that he himself is a by product of the Q's evolution. The Q most likely limited his powers and left him immortal to punish him for his wickedness. Armus stated himself he was left behind by a race of titans whom cast off their evil?. The Q never display evil intentions only Playful, Curious, and sometimes even Helpful to an extent. It is more than likely Armus was stranded there by the Q to Punish Him. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.12.116.80.

There is no information to support this. Cannon or otherwise. (Vince 21:30, 2 March 2008 (UTC))

I always thought the titans in question were the Vulcans -- weren't they said to have cast their emotions onto the rock or something? – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.46.212.119.

I just watched Skin of Evil, and there is no reference to the backstory given on this page. All that is given of Armus' history is that some long-past civilization created him as the concentration of all the evil in themselves, then left the planet, leaving him alone. There is no reference to Armus having destroyed his makers. 67.188.212.34 00:53, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Nor, to be clear, is there any reference to Armus' being directly responsible for his makers' voluntary departure, or for the condition that the Enterprise crew finds Vagra II in. 67.188.212.34 00:55, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

You are right. I am in fact in the process of rewriting this page to remove the innacurate speculation, add details, and add background information on the armus-costume. --Pseudohuman 04:56, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Done. :) --Pseudohuman 06:33, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I remember seeing a documentary that said the black stuff Armus is made of was Petroleum (crude oil) not black printer ink. And that Jonathan Frakes did in fact immerse himself in it, over his head. And an elevator pushed him up when Armus expelled him. Wish I could remember the name of it. Would you submerge yourself in crude oil? Levar Burton told Jonathan Frakes he would never ever do it. 66.189.37.204 13:45, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Confused

I just watched Yesterday's Enterprise. What I find confusing is that this page says that Armus was probably never encountered due to the Federation Klingon war, but remember- that was only a temporary alternate timeline. As soon as Lieutenant Yar went back in time with the Enterprise C that timeline would have ceased to exist and the war never happened. Thus, they probably would have encountered Armus and she would have been killed. Which means that she couldn't have gone back with the E-C when it appeared from the past, Predestination Paradox.

Also, couldn't the Photon Torpedo have killed Armus. It was meant just to destroy the shuttle, but a PT contains a kilogram of anti-matter. It would have made an explosion much bigger than Hiroshima or Nagasaki, we could even see the explosion from Orbit! 66.189.37.204 17:45, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Closed timelines are simply referred to as alternate timelines in MA. Photon torpedoes are variable yield weapons. Presumably the torpedo was set to such a level that it did not annihilate Armus. Why would have they quarantined the planet if the torp had disintigrated Armus. Special effects in Star Trek are frequently faulty, and it is considered nitpicking to point out such things. --Pseudohuman 23:35, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Well, not always. For example, remember in the DS9 The Die is Cast, we are told that something like 40% of the crust was destroyed on the opening volley, when the computer simulation said it would take an hour? They can't both be right, and since we didn't see the underlying mantle (and the computer simulation can't be that far off.) We should conclude it wasn't destroyed that quickly. 66.189.37.204 14:47, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

They don't really know, even if it was a low yield torpedo, he could have been in the shuttle when it hit, trying to make it fly again. 66.189.37.204 14:49, April 7, 2010 (UTC)