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Revision as of 13:55, 28 October 2009

There have been some changes to timeline articles in the 2370s range, and corresponding discussion on Forum:2370s date changes, recently. The idea of this project is to review all 24th century Trek episodes to find out which ones really contain specific dates (of the Julian/Gregorian calendar variety), or can otherwise be tied to a specific date without having to resort to any speculation, like the assumed correspondency of 1000 stardate units to one earth year, or the unconfirmed idea that stardate XX000.0 corresponds to January 1.

Fact list

  • Each entry in the following list needs to state which episode that fact is from (preferably with an approximate timecode).
  • Relevant dialog should be quoted exactly.
  • Only enter facts (that is, things explicitly stated in dialog), not speculation.
  • No discussion in the list - for discussion, use the sections below this one. Facts without discussion can be removed from the sections below after being transferred to this list.
  • Columns of the following list are supposed to contain:
    • Season code = First two digits of stardate typically used during that season
    • Full stardate = If given in dialog
    • Full date = If given in dialog - Format "YYYY-MM-DD", use appropriate number of '0' for unknown values.
Episode Season code Full stardate Full date Relative date Dialog quote
TNG: "The Neutral Zone" 41 2364-00-00 (statement by Data) (citation needededit)
TNG: "All Good Things..." 47 47988.0 said by Worf, twice (citation needededit)
VOY: "Homestead" 54 the "315th" anniversary of First Contact (citation needededit)
VOY: "Endgame" 55 "3 Months" after events of VOY: "Human Error" according to Seven of Nine (citation needededit)

41xxx

Episodes: TNG Season 1

Dates given in dialog

TNG: "The Neutral Zone" - 2364 (statement by Data) (citation needededit)

Dates derived from other facts

42xxx

Episodes: TNG Season 2

43xxx

Episodes: TNG Season 3

44xxx

Episodes: TNG Season 4

45xxx

Episodes: TNG Season 5

46xxx

Episodes: TNG Season 6, DS9 Season 1

47xxx

Episodes: TNG Season 7, DS9 Season 2

48xxx

Episodes: DS9 Season 3, VOY Season 1, VOY Season 2 (Four episodes held over from season 1):
"Projections"

Dates Given in Dialog

49xxx

Episodes: DS9 Season 4, VOY Season 2

50xxx

Episodes: DS9 Season 5, VOY Season 3

51xxx

Episodes: DS9 Season 6, VOY Season 4

Dates Given in Dialog

  • VOY: "The Gift" - Statement by Kes in VOY: "Fury" that she will leave Voyager in 3 years from 2371. 2371 + 3 = 2374. A statement by The Doctor indicates that The Gift takes place "a few days" after VOY: "Scorpion". (citation needededit)

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Episodes: DS9 Season 7, VOY Season 5

Dates Given in Dialog

  • VOY: "11:59" - April 22 (statement by Neelix at the end of the episode). No year or stardate given, however since this episode takes place very late in the season and taking into account the pattern seen in Voyager's 7th season, it is reasonable to assume that the year is 2376 for 11:59 - Equinox. (citation needededit)
It is not reasonable to assume and needs facts and not speculation.
In VOY: "Timeless" Janeway states that Voyager had been in the Delta Quadrant for four years, two months, 11 days, giving us a date sometime in early 2375. We know Voyager was stranded in 2371 (and that doesn't come from a stardate, see VOY: "Future's End", starling specifically gives the year). Taking the timeframe given in Timeless, is it really possible that everything from Timeless - 11:59 take place in only three months at the most, and then suddenly skip ahead to December for Equinox?

Dates Derived From Other Facts

DS9: "The Dogs of War" - Given that this episode takes place at the same time as VOY: "Relativity" (which in turn takes place after VOY: "11:59"), it is reasonable to assume that this episode and DS9: "What You Leave Behind" take place in 2376. (citation needededit)

53xxx

Episodes: VOY Season 6

Dates Given in Dialog

VOY: "Unimatrix Zero" - 2377 (from VOY: "Endgame") (citation needededit)

Dates Derived From Other Facts

VOY: "Life Line" - Possibly 2377. Statement from Janeway that the Doctor had been transmitted to the Alpha Quadrant "three years" previously. Backed up by a statement from Lewis Zimmerman that he had not left Jupiter Station in "OVER four years" (Assuming he's referring to his visit to DS9 in that shows fifth season, 2373 + 4 = 2377). (citation needededit)

This still fails to show the episode takes place in 2377. Regardless of the statement "over four years ago" and assuming that the episode in question takes place in 2373. Still needs more facts
I disagree, add four to 2373 (it is the communities current understanding that the DS9 episode in which Zimmerman appears takes place in that year) and you get 2377. Back it up that the Doctor had been sent to the Alpha Quadrant three years previously (from 2374 + 3 = 2377). If the episode took place in 2376 wouldn't it make more sense for Zimmerman to something like ALMOST four years or over THREE years? If that's not good enough there are no stardates to suggest otherwise. Think about it.

54xxx

Episodes: VOY Season 7

Dates Given in Dialog

VOY: "Homestead" - April 5, 2378 (the "315th" anniversary of First Contact)

Dates derived from other facts

VOY: "Human Error" - "3 Months" prior to VOY: "Endgame" according to Seven of Nine (Jan-Feb. 2378?)

VOY: "Friendship One" Official Star Trek.com website give year as 2378, statement by Tom Paris says B'Ellana's baby is due in "a couple of months"

Non canon/non production note and invalid for source

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Other

Year Specific

2378

Taking into account Seven of Nine's statement from VOY: "Endgame" (takes place sometime after April 5, 2378) regarding the events of VOY: "Human Error" taking place 3 months previous, there is enough hard evidence to conclude the following episodes in 2378.