Memory Alpha:Possible copyright infringements

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Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan

Copied from Wikipedia --Memory 19:04, 4 Jan 2006 (UTC)

It should be noted that it's not the entire article, only part of the summary that has been deemed a copyright infringement. I think simply removing that portion of the text would be enough; that's usually what happens, anyway - someone pastes a copyrighted summary, it is simply reverted. I'm not sure if there's a need to place it here. Could be wrong, though. --From Andoria with Love 22:21, 4 Jan 2006 (UTC)

The problem is the old version stored in the database. Just removing it doesn't separates it from the history, so the versions must be deleted. If we just revert, we don't need this page here, if there is something like Lumerian we just remove it and write a short stub. But that won't erase the copyvio (to hit "Save page" means relicensing it without permission, so we have to remove all traces of this, just for the case that someone copies the copyvio version from here later). --Memory 17:23, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Well if no one touches this yet in the next 12 hours or so the summary will have to be deleted and can be rewritten from scratch. --Alan del Beccio

Only the reverted part please ;-) --Memory 21:09, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps you should do it, since I'm not seeing what you are getting at outside of explaining why we don't just revert it to the point prior to the addition of the copyvio template. --Alan del Beccio 10:20, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm not an admin and can't delete the three copyvios in the history (1, 2 and 3). --Memory 22:35, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

It's not that easy. Even if I delete those specific entries, the same text is going to remain in the article. The text needs to be removed from the article or rewritten. Anyone can do that. --Alan del Beccio 21:59, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Uh? Only the three versions I listed contain the cv stuff. This has been removed with my revert. Deletion of them is now the next step. --Memory 22:32, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

What is the point deleting contributions in the middle of a contribution list when the information is no longer in the article? --Alan del Beccio 22:48, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Read above: they are still copyvios as long as they are stored anywhere here under our license. --Memory 22:54, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

LGBT characters in The Star Trek Universe

LGBT Characters in The Star Trek Universe

Copied from LGBT Characters in the Star Trek universe at Wikipedia. I don't think the page is suitable for MA's needs, anyway.--From Andoria with Love 00:19, 14 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Star Trek: A Final Unity

I noticed this was copied from wikipedia, posted about it in the talk page, and Jaz replaced the content with a copyvio message. Then I salvaged from history the sidepanel, which seemed to be original (since it's quite different from the one at Wikipedia), and put it in the temp page, along with a small new description and a stub mark (I plan to expand and further clean it myself, soon). But now I see that even that sidepanel will very likely be replaced by the new game sidepanel template once it's ready for use (see talk). I hereby vote for immediate deletion of the infringing article. (see talk pages). Shanok 18:04, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

The article was also deletable because ithad the less proper (incomplete) title, it has bee resolved and redirected to Star Trek: The Next Generation - A Final Unity (where it was already linked to, from article Spectrum Holobyte). Temp page has been moved. -- Captain Mike K. Bartel^talk 19:14, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Nitrogen tetroxide

Copied from Wikipedia:Nitrogen tetroxide. Jaz 23:08, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Hollywood

Copied from Wikipedia:Hollywood. Jaz 23:09, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Neurotoxin

Copied from Wikipedia:Neurotoxin. Jaz 23:12, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Labor union

Copied from Wikipedia:Labor union Jaz 23:24, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Steven Hawking

Steven Hawking

Material copied from Stephen Hawking at Wikipedia; also, name is mis-spelled; real article can be found here. --From Andoria with Love

User:Mike Nobody

User:Mike Nobody

This page contains several dozen links to off-site mp3 files. I don't feel like checking any or all of them, but judging the file names, at least some of them seem to be from published artists without being properly attributed or anything (see: Memory Alpha:Copyrights). On top of that, it is a big frakking list of files that have nothing to do whatsoever with Memory Alpha or Star Trek. User pages are not storage space (see: Memory Alpha:Your user page), so even if this not considered a copyvio for whatever reasons, I think it still needs to be removed. Note: Since this is a user page, I did not edit it to remove content or put a copyvio message on it, but instead left a note on the user talk page. -- Cid Highwind 10:56, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

• Agreed (per below) --Alan del Beccio 21:56, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Memory Alpha:What Memory Alpha is not:

#5 Storage space. Do not use Memory Alpha for storing material unrelated to the project. (This includes your personal User: pages.)

• Sheesh. This page definitely needs a cleanup... --Memory 22:07, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

There is no non-Trek material being stored on my Memory Alpha userpage. All non-Trek related files are hosted elsewhere. It was Captainmike who originally pointed out I could host such non-trek images and files on sites like www.photobucket.com, whom I hadn't even heard of before he recommended them. I was under the impression that a userpage wasn't about Star Trek anyway, and it was available to the user to pretty much communicate as they wish. I was under the impression that it is personal space to share interests with other users, tell a little about yourself, etc. What's the point if they're not?--Mike Nobody ^=/\= 04:33, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Based on the guidelines I posted above, "the point is" to store material related to "the project." Additionally, the issue here is the huge list of links to copyrighted music more than the images. It's a profile page on a Star Trek wikisite, not a MySpace or Friendster profile. --Alan del Beccio 05:28, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I hope we're not talking about deleting the user's entire page here. Just remove the copyrighted material. Which is pretty much everything on the page, so... I dunno. Regardless, I agree that the page is a series of copyright infringements and should be dealt with in any way possible. --From Andoria with Love 16:12, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

No, I think we're not talking about deletion. First, this is about potentially copyrighted material which would have to be removed - and I think we already agree on that. The best solution would be for Mike to do that himself soon - otherwise, one of the admins would have to do that. Second, I think a clarification of our policies is necessary. The copyrights policy should make clear that even externally linked pages or files should not infringe any copyrights (otherwise that link should be a candidate for immediate removal), while the user page policy should list filetypes that are "allowed" to be externally linked from a user page. We should restrict ourselves to weblinks and image files only. -- Cid Highwind 17:56, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Re:Mike: There's still some discussion about what exactly is or isn't "allowed" on a user page - but what should be very clear is the simple fact that no user should be allowed to post direct links to copyrighted material (exception: material is related to Star Trek AND fair use guidelines apply) on Memory Alpha. A link to an mp3 file by a well-known, published group is neither the one nor the other - and since we can't be bothered to check every single file a user want to link to, I think we should disallow direct links to mp3 files completely. Additionally, it isn't necessary to have these file lists of you only want to "share interests". -- Cid Highwind 18:02, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I've had mp3 files and images linked to my userpage for several months without any complaints. What suddenly brought this on? I have a definite feeling this is politically motivated, since I'm only getting all this after my recent additions. I couldn't contribute for awhile, after some computer problems. The last wiki upgrade seems to have cleared it up. I came back, added some links, and all of a sudden I feel like I've been dragged to an intervention. What's the deal?--Mike Nobody ^=/\= 22:43, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

The "deal" is that I just found out about those links when I checked your last edits to your page. This is neither "personal" nor "political", and I apoligize if my earlier comments sounded like it was. Still, the fact that this is copyrighted content remains. -- Cid Highwind 22:50, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

And, I'll repeat, all non-trek content is not on Memory Alpha servers. Captainmike had this discussion with me when I first started contributing to Memory Alpha last year. he (and a few other administrators) made me take the Bart Simpson picture down, but recommended hosting elsewhere. If its not on M/A servers, where's the justification to take down "links". It isn't true that you "just found out" I had these links either, since we've communicated many times before. So, something's instigated this recently. The only recent thing I've done is add a few more links and take down my "away" notice.--Mike Nobody ^=/\= 01:06, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

That's an aweful paranoid response. The fact is, at least in my case, I don't ever read user pages, but "just found out" about yours recently, as well. It sort of stood out after you made a good dozen edits to it in one night, yet no actual contributions to the site-- which in itself seems a bit odd. That's when I decided to see what was going on with it. Unlike Cid, I didn't mention anything about it becuase I really didnt want to deal with this otherwise prime example of your overreacting to "the Man" -- this entire conversation seems to be coming across as. I suspect Cid "just found out" about it under the same conditions. --Alan del Beccio 01:27, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Memory Alpha:Your user page

I don't know if this is M/A or just me, but, sidebars aren't showing on my screen. The code is still there and seems OK. I may be having problems with my computer, but it seems to only affect M/A. Please reply.--Mike Nobody ^=/\= 21:04, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Hi Mike. All I can definitely say is that it is not MA - the sidebars work just fine for me. It sounds as if the page doesn't load completely, which could have a variety of reasons, including temporary issues with MA's servers and/or your internet connection. It might also be a problem with the CSS files: click on the following link and force a reload of that page (Ctrl+F5, probably): [1]. If all this doesn't help, perhaps you can describe your problem in more detail or make a screenshot? -- Cid Highwind 21:51, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC)

And what has this to do with anything? Fact is, I talked to you in the past. Fact also is, I don't have to visit your user page to do so. Additionally, while I might have had a short look at your user page in the past, just now I had a look at a diff of your recent changes to it, where all those filenames were nicely marked in red (while the filenames themselves are not directly visible by just looking at the page). So, basically, my story is very similar to the one Gvsualan already told you. Don't accuse me of lying or having any hidden agenda.

Anyway, let us now leave this tangent - your user page still contains links to copyrighted mp3 files. Do you want to remove these links yourself? -- Cid Highwind 10:06, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I am not accusing you of lying. You are. You've since deleted some of our discussions on your talk page regarding external links. The one I posted is just about all that's left on mine. So, the evidence of most of your lying is now deleted. But, however you want to distort this, there is the issue of what is M/A's policy toward user pages actually is.

According to M/A policy, "your user page is yours. No other user is allowed to edit your user page. If another user edits your personal user page, it might be considered an act of vandalism. An Administrator may edit an external link to avoid linking out to sites which are classified as "spam" .Uploaded files that are not directly related to an article will be deleted immediately.

So the question is "Have I linked to sites classified as 'spam'?" and "Why?" and "Have I uploaded files not related to the project?" The answers are "No." and "No." If I uploaded Mp3s or images unrelated to the project to M/A's servers, you'd be right that I was violating M/A policy. But, I haven't. If it's on my page it's my business, not yours. If it's on another server, it's their business, not yours. And drawing this arbitrary line between copyrighted Mp3s and copyrighted images makes no sense at all, since it's arguable that the whole site is violating copyright law every day. "Fair Use" law has been weakened so much over the last decade or so that it is meaningless as a defense. You're allowed to do what the copyright holder allows you to do. It's simple as that. Get on their bad side and they'll yank everything, no matter how much anyone tries to claim "Fair Use".

Is there a bureaucrat to consult on this?--Mike Nobody ^=/\= 23:48, 28 January 2006 (UTC)