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*'''Oppose'''. The lack of information about Nog's relationship with Jake is the killer for this article. It would almost be like doing Will Riker's article without mentioning his relationship with Deanna Troi. I also think that his personal character development with making himself heard in front of the Klingons was pretty important too.--[[User:Scimitar|Scimitar]] 07:11, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 
*'''Oppose'''. The lack of information about Nog's relationship with Jake is the killer for this article. It would almost be like doing Will Riker's article without mentioning his relationship with Deanna Troi. I also think that his personal character development with making himself heard in front of the Klingons was pretty important too.--[[User:Scimitar|Scimitar]] 07:11, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 
*'''Oppose''' for same reasons stated by Scimitar. --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 10:40, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 
*'''Oppose''' for same reasons stated by Scimitar. --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 10:40, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 
===[[Ferengi]]===
 
perfect in every way [[User:BajoranBrouhaha|BajoranBrouhaha]] 09:06, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 
*'''Oppose'''. It's an extensive article but hardly perfect. I'd personally like to see a bit more on their culture. I don't think that the references are complete either.--[[User:Scimitar|Scimitar]] 00:57, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 
*'''Oppose''' Yes I am oppsoing this one contrary to popular belief that I support everything. There is no list of appearances. The article has no link to the rules of Aquisition that I can find. The refrences are incomplete. There is no list of Ferangi, or at least a link to another aticle with a list. [[User:Tobyk777|Tobyk777]] 02:11, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 
**'''Comment''' - Did you read the article? There is at least one link to the Rules, and there is a link to a list of Ferengi (see the People section). And the references are pretty darn near complete, at least from all of the major Ferengi episodes on DS9. I'm sure there are some missing but most likely they are off-hand references in episodes that don't focus on the Ferengi. If they are missing, I'm hoping someone like yourself will put them in. A list of appearances would be good though... [[User:Logan 5|Logan 5]] 16:23, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 
***I did read the article completely. I didn't see a link to the rules or to a list a ferangi. I might have glaced over it while reading. Let me also point out that in the comment ;preceeding this one you used the phrase "I'm sure there are some missing" that means that it's incomplete. [[User:Tobyk777|Tobyk777]] 00:16, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 
****"that means that it's incomplete." Uh-huh, which is one of my stated reasons for opposing it below. I was only pointing out that two of your reasons were inaccurate. [[User:Logan 5|Logan 5]] 03:34, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 
*****I think that someone went in and revised it. now I count 3 links to the rules. I didn't see any before. [[User:Tobyk777|Tobyk777]] 04:30, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 
**'''Comment''' - I think this should be removed, based on the fact it was nomiated by a blocked user. --[[User:Gvsualan|Alan del Beccio]] 05:35, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 
***How can a blocked user nominate something? They're blocked, right?
 
**** Well, that would be because they were blocked after they nominated it because they turned out to be a vandal...also, please remember to sign your comments with <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>. Thanks, [[User:Gvsualan|Alan del Beccio]]
 
*Mild '''Oppose'''. I did a lot of work on this page myself but I feel like it's a bit wordy and probably does not capture many references from episodes that don't focus on the Ferengi (though I'm almost positive that all of the major eps are there). I'd feel more comfortable supporting the nomination after some other users had a go-round on the article to make sure there aren't important pieces of info missing. [[User:Logan 5|Logan 5]] 16:23, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 
**'''Comment'''. You know, even though I have a slight opposition to this article in its current state, I have to wonder how [[Bolian]]s can be a featured article with such relatively little content and almost nothing in depth, and yet Ferengi is not worth it? The Bolian article is almost entirely anectdotal and yet certainly there is more known about the Ferengi, and the article is more complete, than many we've seen as FAs. I'm just starting to wonder if people just don't like the Ferengi. Just a thought/observation.
 
*Mild '''Oppose'''. It is an extensive, well-written and well-researched article, but it just seems... incomplete to me. As Scimitar pointed out, more info on their culture would be nice. And as Gvsualan pointed out... this ''was'' nominated by a now-banned user. --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 02:57, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 

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Crossover

Seems like there are articles with less work put into them that are featured, so this one definitely deserves it. I like the navigation for the mirror universe episodes, too. Coke 21:06, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)

  • Support Tough Little Ship 09:57, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)
  • Oppose only because I think that there are more characters, places, and things that could be FAs with a little community support instead of another episode summary. Logan 5 14:39, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment - Maybe just having an episode summary that's 347 KB long shouldn't be among the reasons for featured, but actual community team work and great content. Maybe give a little while before more episodes. - AJHalliwell 18:15, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
    • I think you're right. I'll put the other episodes up to be removed as featured articles. Coke 06:37, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)
    • I made a suggestion in Ten Forward but for the time being your rationale does not constitute a valid reason unless you wanna be the one who removes all those articles from the featured list. You can't support one and oppose another. That's called hypocrisy Coke 06:42, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)
      • And you can't just arbitrarily decide that one persons vote is invalid either. The fact of the matter is, is that we just recently had a half-dozen plus of these episode articles featured in the past couples weeks and it has been the feeling of myself and several others that there have been far too many "easy" featured articles slipping through lately, which really defeats the purpose of having featured articles in the first place. As AJ clearly stated above, give it some time before we start inundating the community again with episode summaries for featured articles and focus more time and effort into researching into the other 75% of the main characters whose pages are not yet complete or the numerous other people, items or events that could be explored. --Alan del Beccio 06:59, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Nog

I think this article has come a long way with a lot of work from different users. It's a good character, and a chance for at least one aspect of the Ferengi to be represented in the FA lists. I was the anon. user who originally added the structure to the article and since then a lot more has been done. Most major events are there, including his participation in several key events of the Dominion War, notably the The Siege of AR-558. All in all, I think it deserves consideration. Logan 5 02:27, 9 Sep 2005 (UTC)

  • it reads well, but i'm wondering because it links to The Siege of AR-558 as an event in the article. should there be a separate page called Siege of AR-558 for that? the link points to the episode page. Makon 04:03, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)
    • I wondered about that myself. I think a short term solution would be to change the link to AR-558, as I'm not sure how an article on the event would differ too much from the content there. Logan 5 04:29, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)
  • Support Tobyk777 04:20, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment The format of this article is like a timeline; we definitly know enough about him to have it in the usual character format don't we? I know I'd personally like to see it that way. (ie: Beverly Crusher, William T. Riker, T'Pol) - AJHalliwell 02:39, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
    • Indeed, where's the section about his relationships with Jake, women, Sisko, and even the Klingons? Remember how they ignored him at first? -Coke 02:44, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
  • Oppose. The lack of information about Nog's relationship with Jake is the killer for this article. It would almost be like doing Will Riker's article without mentioning his relationship with Deanna Troi. I also think that his personal character development with making himself heard in front of the Klingons was pretty important too.--Scimitar 07:11, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)
  • Oppose for same reasons stated by Scimitar. --From Andoria with Love 10:40, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

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