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Sennim
I was surprised that Sennim is not already an admin on here. Seems to be one of the best contributors to MA (at least, IMHO). --Defiant 19:19, November 16, 2011 (UTC)
Support
- Support. Sennim's statement convinced me. There is nothing wrong with not being totally familiar with all aspects of this site; I am not as familiar with the real-world articles or production background, for example, while Sennim says he is not as familiar with the in-universe part. He clearly knows his stuff about the content he posts here, and that's what counts. Looking at some of his history I see no issues with policies that would prevent him from being an admin.--31dot 02:18, November 17, 2011 (UTC)
Oppose
Comment
I'm not ready to weigh in on this nomination yet, but I wonder if we should attempt to address the inactive admins we have before adding another one.--31dot 21:46, November 16, 2011 (UTC)
- I am in agreement with 31dot. --| TrekFan Open a channel 22:28, November 16, 2011 (UTC)
- Well, that's fair enough. But I don't think we need to change absolutely everything and for it to be too drastic. Anyways, Sennim's proposed admin status is also (at least, afaik) dependent on his acceptance (or lack thereof) of the role. --Defiant 23:53, November 16, 2011 (UTC)
- [edit conflict] - "For a wiki, the more administrators that participate in the system, the better." Since nothing has come of the various attempts to do something about the "inactive" admins before, I don't see any reason to hold up nominations until something is done, since it's likely that nothing will be right now. That said, I've been mulling over another proposal that would address the inactive admins issue, but I wasn't going to bring it up without further input and refinement, most likely early next year, though it wouldn't surprise me if there was already another suggestion on table as soon as new year's day.
- As for Sennim, while I know him to meet nearly all of the qualifications, not to mention that I think he would make fine admin, I've never really seen him "exhibit a good understanding of Memory Alpha's Policies and Guidelines". I would like for further input on that matter before deciding either way. - Archduk3 00:03, November 17, 2011 (UTC)
- And shouldn't the site-wide issue over what to do with long-inactive admins be dealt with separately from this particular, specific nomination? --Defiant 00:07, November 17, 2011 (UTC)
I agree with Archduk's last paragraph- I'm inclined to support Sennim but would like the same info that Archduk wants.
Defiant, that's what I'm kind of suggesting- only that we deal with that first before adding new admins. If push comes to shove and this goes forward, fine- but that's just my thought. The nomination is clearly valid and deserved- and again, I'm inclined to support him.--31dot 00:11, November 17, 2011 (UTC)
- Admittedly, I'm not entirely sure about how to prove that Sennim has exhibited "a good understanding of Memory Alpha's Policies and Guidelines" (that bit); I was basing the nomination more on his exemplary conduct as an archivist, as well as the quantity and quality of his contributions. The "understanding" bit would most likely have to come from him, as I'm not a telepath (it'd be the same for whoever I was nominating, largely because I don't know anyone here outside of MA). Anyways, the nomination policy page does state, "There are no strict standards for becoming an administrator," and "It's best for the nominees to exhibit a good understanding [etc.]," therefore such an "understanding" is not compulsory. I personally also feel that too much emphasis is usually cast on that aspect of the admin nominations, but that's just individual opinion. --Defiant 01:23, November 17, 2011 (UTC)
Probably the best way to show that would be to hear from Sennim personally, though I would also ask if anyone is aware of Sennim demonstrating an awareness of policies through his actions. I think it reasonable to expect potential admins to be aware of policies since part of their job is encouraging others to follow them. --31dot 01:44, November 17, 2011 (UTC)
- And quite often implementing them, too. I didn't mean to suggest that I believe a knowledge of the policies and guidelines is entirely unimportant, just slightly less important than is usually expected of admin candidates. --Defiant 01:52, November 17, 2011 (UTC)
- Greetings to all. I'm extremely honored to be considered for the position of admin, and very thankful. However as of now I do have to admit that I'm not very well versed in the exhibiting a "good understanding of Memory Alpha's Policies and Guidelines" as Duke rightfully put it. Why is this? As I've admitted it on several occasions, I'm not that well versed on the "in-universe" aspects of the franchise as of now, which is what MA is primarily all about. My strong points is as "archivist" concerning the bginfo sections as most of you have witnessed, and as such I'll endeavor to do my utmost best, now and in the near future. Please, do not consider this a shirking of responsibilities, but rather me realizing where my strong points really lie...Again I'm really grateful of the vote of confidence--Sennim 02:11, November 17, 2011 (UTC)
- And quite often implementing them, too. I didn't mean to suggest that I believe a knowledge of the policies and guidelines is entirely unimportant, just slightly less important than is usually expected of admin candidates. --Defiant 01:52, November 17, 2011 (UTC)
I'll put my above concerns aside for now, but I look forward to Archduk's (or anyone's) future discussion about the issue I raised.--31dot 02:20, November 17, 2011 (UTC)