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== In-universe categories ==
 
== In-universe categories ==
=== Missions and expeditions parent ===
 
I created [[:Category:Missions and expeditions]] based on my rereading [[Memory Alpha:Category suggestion archive#Events|this]], which had everyone actually agreeing that we should have the category, but not liking the name (myself in fact) or what category it should be under. I'm fine with the name as is now, and will do the work to change it if I misread that and we decide otherwise, but there wasn't a category decided to place this under, so we still need that. I did like the original suggestion of "Events", which could then cover [[Crossing]], [[Fornax Disaster]] (categorized), [[Alien abduction]], and other uncategorized pages, but since that failed the first time around, I'm open to suggestions. - {{User:Archduk3/Sig/nature}} 14:57, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
:I like Events as well; I'm not sure what else you could use instead.--[[User:31dot|31dot]] 09:25, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
=== Holograms (disambig) ===
 
=== Holograms (disambig) ===
 
[[Vic Fontaine]] ''is not'' Human. He's a Hologram, just ask him yourself. Since the species categories are "is" categories, Holograms shouldn't be directly in other species categories.
 
[[Vic Fontaine]] ''is not'' Human. He's a Hologram, just ask him yourself. Since the species categories are "is" categories, Holograms shouldn't be directly in other species categories.

Revision as of 11:04, 17 March 2015

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Please make sure you have read and understood Memory Alpha's category approval policy before editing this page. Category suggestions can be used to suggest a single category, multiple categories in the same "tree branch" or "parent category," or to determine which categories will contain or be contained by other categories. From there, they may either be approved and enacted by moving the discussion from this page to the new category's talk page, or, if not approved, moving the discussion from here to the category suggestion archive.

One of the reasons we discuss categories first is because we need to ensure that the category tag, when circumstances call for it, contains the correct sort keys to arrange the list in a predetermined order.

This page is broken down into sections:

  • In-universe categories: These categories are intended to be used for in-universe articles, and should be named to maintain Memory Alpha's POV.
  • Production POV categories: These categories are for use on production articles, which are written from the real world POV, and as such should be have the {{real world}} template on them.
  • Maintenance categories: These categories are used in the maintenance of Memory Alpha, and would include the audio and image files for example. These categories can have either a in-universe or real world POV.


In-universe categories

Holograms (disambig)

Vic Fontaine is not Human. He's a Hologram, just ask him yourself. Since the species categories are "is" categories, Holograms shouldn't be directly in other species categories.

Vic would be categorized as "Holograms (Human)" and that category would be in both Holograms and Humans, for searching purposes. - Archduk3 07:11, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

But is that useful enough to justify a huge number of new barely populated categories, and a whole new level of complexity? You'd have thins like Category:Holograms (fly), with Roy as the sole member. And maybe even categories in the format of Category:Holograms (xyz's species). Plus if this is needed then there's no real reason not to do the same with fictional characters. Or you could even have a Category:Unreferenced Material (Humans). I'm not gonna formally vote because I'm not all that involved in categories, but holograms are just holograms, methinks. Vic would probably just find a coy way of saying no if you'd flat out ask him if he was Human. -- Capricorn (talk) 08:04, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

I tend to agree, but since there are a fair number of pages in two species categories, that aren't hybrids, this was my solution without simply removing the "looks like" category. I'm not advocating for a sub-cat for Roy either, since I'm assuming that the rational originally was to make it easier to find actors or actresses if you only remember the amount of rubber attached to their face, which is why "he" isn't in animals as well as holograms. - Archduk3 00:53, February 26, 2015 (UTC)

Individual animals

From Category talk:Individual animals:

Did I miss the category talk for this new category? Tom (talk) 14:37, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I was unaware that I had to alert people of doing that. Other wikias were less strict about that. I just assumed that the category was necessary because certain other wikias had the same type of category, and it seemed weird that animals had to be lumped in with sentient individuals. If you want to get rid of it I understand, but I just thought it was logical for them to ave their own category.--Bwaar (talk) 14:48, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

Personally I am not against this category and can see your point. I will move the discussion to the appropriate place to get the official way. Tom (talk) 14:57, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

I have just created a category for individual animals that had names. It seemed weird to me for animals to be lumped in with sentient characters, and I've noticed that other wikias have this category such as Memory Beta. --Bwaar (talk) 14:54, March 8, 2015 (UTC)
Memory Alpha is not a "wikia", it is a wiki, and while I'm fundamentally and morally opposed to anyone who uses the name of that company to address this site, I can find no reason to oppose this particular suggestion. - Archduk3 18:14, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

Production POV categories

Collectible companies

For pages in both Category:Collectibles and Category:Companies. - Archduk3 00:31, February 15, 2015 (UTC)

Something we should've had a while ago -- but an optimal solution here would be to break up the company from the product. The company would fall into 'collectible companies', and then have a product page that can be the current 'catalogue' section of each page now fall into the collectibles. -- sulfur (talk) 03:47, February 15, 2015 (UTC)

I agree. I'm thinking a page for each "product line." For example: Johnny Lightning could be split to Legends of Star Trek (standard releases) and Legends Of Star Trek (White Lightning releases) or just Legends of Star Trek (Johnny Lightning). We could also just have a Johnny Lightning catalog or Johnny Lightning merchandise page, which would might make more sense for pages like Genki Wear and Kraft, which don't have "named product lines," or much of a "line" at all. - Archduk3 04:29, February 15, 2015 (UTC)

Support, though a bit tentatively. While the suggestion ties in nicely with that of publishers and books/magazines, I'm a bit concerned with the split application resulting in a large number of additional "stub" pages the Kraft and Genki examples...I like the second subordinate suggestion, but propose Johnny Lightning product lines instead "catalog" or "merchandise". To my ears the latter two would sound too much like commercially "peddling" stuff--Sennim (talk) 11:38, February 16, 2015‎ (UTC)

Electronic games

In Category:Games to contain the non-video game electronic games, such as handhelds and the games that had video components (VHS/DVD). The pinball games could either be included or not, I'm not sure right now. This would have Category:Video games subbed under it. - Archduk3 04:37, March 14, 2015 (UTC)

Customizable card game

To essentially contain the current contents of Category:Collectible card games, while that category would in turn contain this new category and the collectible card games currently not in the category. - Archduk3 04:37, March 14, 2015 (UTC)

Maintenance categories