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:I like Events as well; I'm not sure what else you could use instead.--[[User:31dot|31dot]] 09:25, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
:I like Events as well; I'm not sure what else you could use instead.--[[User:31dot|31dot]] 09:25, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
   
=== Locations/structures ===
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=== Multiple Actor Characters ===
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Mainly a super category, I seem to remember there being a few locations/structures that didn't fall into any of the other categories that would fall under this one. I think either name would work, with locations being slightly more inclusive. - {{User:Archduk3/Sig/nature}} 16:46, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 
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Missed '''MA:CS''', totally out of universe, misnamed, I can go on...
:I'm not sure which hard to classify structures you have in mind, or if you hope to put these in one category together with the locations. But a general locations category would be very welcome, there's a bunch of interstellar locations where it isn't clear if they're planets, city's, stars, or even something else, which right now are quite clumsily put in the regions category. (examples: [[Ya'Seem]], [[Micromius]], [[Sybaron]], [[Nagor]],...) -- [[User:Capricorn|Capricorn]] ([[User talk:Capricorn|talk]]) 03:57, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
::Short term, if we're unclear, those should be moved into [[:Category:Uncategorized articles]]. Longer term, I do like the idea of a "locations" category, and I was actually trying to work out what categories would fall under it (in addition to their current locations). -- [[User:Sulfur|sulfur]] ([[User talk:Sulfur|talk]]) 10:27, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
One of the ones I was thinking about, [[Annandale]], is already in the uncategorized category. The other is just in a pna category right now if I remember correctly. What I was thinking would count as a location would be something that is relatively stationary, so it would include things like stations, planets, systems, etc, which is why this would be a super-category. Using structures would just remove "natural" locations as I see it. - {{User:Archduk3/Sig/nature}} 03:27, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
:(Incidently, I might have screwed up by placing a bunch of vague locations in the regions category in the last year or so. I distinctly remember being confronted with the question what to do with that kind of pages, and, searching for precedent, somewhere on some talk page reading the recommendation from someone somewhat authoritative to place them in the regions cat, where indeed I found a few such articles. Since then I've placed and moved a few more in that category. Can't seem to find that discussion again though, starting to wonder if I dreamt the whole thing.)
 
:More to the point of this discussion, I'm still very confused about the structures category. In many cases it isn't even clear if something is for example a planet, which you'd place in locations, or a city, which I'm guessing you'd place in structures. Or would structures be more like buildings? I've recently thought about creating an article on the religious structure called a [[temple]], and was very surprised that there didn't seem to be a category for architectural stuff or building types. Maybe stuff like that could be fitted into structures too. Though dunno, maybe that's not what you meant at all and I'm getting off topic. Do you have examples of articles you'd place in structures? -- [[User:Capricorn|Capricorn]] ([[User talk:Capricorn|talk]]) 22:32, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 
Structures would be for "single" structures, a complex of structures would be a location, as I see it at least. If both categories are created, structures would be in locations, at some level anyways. - {{User:Archduk3/Sig/nature}} 03:05, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
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Articles listed in this category included [[Ishka]], [[Christopher Pike]], [[Zefram Cochrane]], [[Tora Ziyal]], and [[Alexander Rozhenko]]. -- [[User:Sulfur|sulfur]] ([[User talk:Sulfur|talk]]) 00:35, March 10, 2014 (UTC)
:::If this is meant to be either/or, I think that "Locations" is the better choice. If both are up for suggestion, I'd like to first hear more about the intended scope of "Structures". It seems to be a little all over the place, because both "type articles" (like [[Bridge (structure)]]) as well as those for individual objects (like [[Golden Gate Bridge]]), as well as ''all'' different kinds of artificially created objects (from buildings, including starbases, to vehicles, perhaps even objects like [[Statue of Liberty]]) could be members of this category. In that case, we'd perhaps need to create a whole new category tree for this. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] ([[User talk:Cid Highwind|talk]]) 16:08, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:'''Oppose''', for obvious reasons. - {{User:Archduk3/Sig/nature}} 01:45, March 10, 2014 (UTC)
 
 
::'''Oppose'''. I can only agree. [[User:ThomasHL|Tom]] ([[User talk:ThomasHL|talk]]) 18:53, March 10, 2014 (UTC)
Actually, the issue with the Golden Gate Bridge was the reason I originally phrased this as one or the other, as I tend to see it as a location on to itself instead of a structure connecting two locations, though I think the latter would most likely be the category we use if both are created. I'm fine with working out a new category tree to include structures, since as I see it there's going to have to be some shake up in the category tree anyways if we create locations, as [[:Category:Geography]] will at the very least have some overlap with it, if one isn't placed inside the other. - {{User:Archduk3/Sig/nature}} 16:51, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:::True, there's some overlap between the two - "structure objects", like ''Golden Gate Bridge'', could be located in a "Structures" category as well as a "Locations" category. But ''Bridge (structure)'' would be a candidate for "Structures" but not for "Locations", while another article like [[Galactic core]] would be a "Location" but not a "Structure" (it already is categorized as [[:Category:Regions|Region]], so that would become one of the "Location" subs). That means that, if we create both, we can't make either one a subcategory of the other, I think they would need to be the heads of more or less independent category trees. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] ([[User talk:Cid Highwind|talk]]) 17:09, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
It might be easier to have the structures category be for the actual objects themselves, and create an [[architecture]] category for the concepts, with the structures cat as a sub of it. Architecture could be placed in [[:Category:Culture]], which is where the article is now. - {{User:Archduk3/Sig/nature}} 17:31, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Took an initial stab at this, still needs works and input most likely. - {{User:Archduk3/Sig/nature}} 04:07, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
 
== Production POV categories ==
 
== Production POV categories ==
=== Award categories ===
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=== Reference CD-ROMs ===
 
A seperate category for the CD-ROMs that currently lie inside [[:Category:Reference books]]. This I believe would make it easier to find them and would acknowledge that they're not "books" in the usual sense. '''[[User:StalwartUK|<span style="color:red">Stalwart</span>]][[User talk:StalwartUK|<span style="color:salmon">UK</span>]]''' 23:25, April 19, 2013 (UTC)
We have categroies for [[:Category:Academy Award winners]] and [[:Category:Academy Award nominees]], [[:Category:Emmy Award winners]] and [[:Category:Emmy Award nominees]], and [[:Category:Saturn Award winners]] and [[:Category:Saturn Award nominees]]. To complete the list we also should have [[:Category:Screen Actors Guild Award winners]] and [[:Category:Taurus World Stunt Award nominees]]. Maybe I am missing one more, see [[Star Trek's awards and honors|this list]]. &ndash; [[User:ThomasHL|Tom]] 06:52, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Support. - {{User:Archduk3/Sig/nature}} 06:09, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
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:'''Support''', makes sense in my opinion, --[[User:Sennim|Sennim]] ([[User talk:Sennim|talk]]) 23:37, April 19, 2013 (UTC)
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::'''Support'''. - {{User:Archduk3/Sig/nature}} 19:53, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
::Come up with a full list, and it shouldn't be a problem I don't think. -- [[User:Sulfur|sulfur]] 15:37, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
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:'''Support'''. [[User:ThomasHL|Tom]] ([[User talk:ThomasHL|talk]]) 18:53, March 10, 2014 (UTC)
:So, would ''[[Star Trek]]'' be listed in the "Screen Actors Guild Award winners" category, or all the individual series pages? I'm not sure how to place the series at whole in there. Was that award a honorary one, or do series win like that all the time? - [[User:Archduk3|<span style="color:green;">Archduk</span>]][[User talk:Archduk3|<span style="color:#9900FF;">3</span>]] <small>(on an unsecure connection)</small> 03:57, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
 
:::I also approve of such a category (at least, in principal). --[[User:Defiant|Defiant]] 04:38, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
 
Ok, here are the missing categories, so far:
 
* [[:Category:ACE Eddie Award nominees]]
 
* [[:Category:ADG Excellence in Production Design Award nominees]]
 
* [[:Category:ADG Excellence in Production Design Award winners]]
 
* [[:Category:ALMA Award nominees]]
 
* [[:Category:ALMA Award winners]]
 
* [[:Category:ASC Award nominees]]
 
* [[:Category:ASCAP Film and Television Music Award winners]]
 
* [[:Category:BAFTA Award nominees]]
 
* [[:Category:C.A.S. Award nominees]]
 
* [[:Category:C.A.S. Award winners]]
 
* [[:Category:Grammy Award nominees]]
 
* [[:Category:Hugo Award nominees]]
 
* [[:Category:Hugo Award winners]]
 
* [[:Category:International Monitor Award winners]]
 
* [[:Category:MTV Movie Award nominees]]
 
* [[:Category:The NAACP Image Award nominees]]
 
* [[:Category:Satellite Award nominees]]
 
* [[:Category:Satellite Award winners]]
 
* [[:Category:Screen Actors Guild Award winners]]
 
* [[:Category:Taurus World Stunt Award nominees]]
 
* [[:Category:Writers Guild of America Award nominees]]
 
* [[:Category:Writers Guild of America Award winners]]
 
I only thought to include these categories to people, maybe also companies but not to specific episodes or the series. These categories could be subcategories to [[:Category:Award nominees]] and [[:Category:Award winners]]. [[User:ThomasHL|Tom]] 18:23, October 13, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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=== Reference books into individual series ===
::I prefer a single "Awards" category, then the rest laid out in the same style that we have now for the various award categories (ie, Awards->X nominees->X winners). The overall awards page (and the redirects that we have) can go into that top level "Awards" category. I'm not sure that we need "Award nominees" and "Award winners" as extra categories. -- [[User:Sulfur|sulfur]] 18:36, October 13, 2011 (UTC)
 
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I suggest we create relevant categories underneath [[:Category:Reference books]] for each of the relevant series. For example, a [[:Category:Star Trek: The Next Generation reference books]] for things like the ''[[Star Trek: The Next Generation Companion]]'', and [[:Category:Star Trek: Deep Space Nine reference books]] for the ''[[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion]]'' etc. Thoughts? --| [[User:TrekFan|TrekFan]] <sup>[[User Talk:TrekFan|<span style="color:#00FF00;">Open a channel</span>]]</sup> 18:52, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
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:How many are there that would fall into each category? Can you put together a list on a sub-User page that would break them down into each grouping? -- [[User:Sulfur|sulfur]] ([[User talk:Sulfur|talk]]) 19:29, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
   
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::While I like the idea, I share Sulfur's "concern". I've taken a look through the list and have noticed that relatively few are series specific (TOS perhaps having the most), many of them cross-series.--[[User:Sennim|Sennim]] ([[User talk:Sennim|talk]]) 10:28, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
:'''Support''' revised proposal. - {{User:Archduk3/Sig/nature}} 12:21, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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=== Production Assistant sub cat ===
===Reference CD-ROMs===
 
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I'd like to propose the category [[:Category:PA]] as a sub under [[::Category:Production staff]]. The reason for the (commonly used) abbreviation is that these people are referred to as "Production Assistant", "Personal Assistant" as well as "Production Associate". The reason for the proposal is that this was a bonafide paid official position within the franchise (unlike interns for example) as the lowest entry level. They were, as some called them self, "goofers", "whipping boy/girl" or "errand boy/girl", tasked with menial jobs. Some of them went on to more senior positions, having started as such, like [[Jim Martin]], [[David Takemura]], [[Dana White]] and [[Bill George]], but many did not, like [[Rod Roddenberry]]. {{STTM|1|3}} mentions another few of the latter who have worked in anonymity. Furthermore, they often performed their duties across departments and are therefore not really department specific.--[[User:Sennim|Sennim]] ([[User talk:Sennim|talk]]) 10:10, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
A seperate category for the CD-ROMs that currently lie inside [[:Category:Reference books]]. This I believe would make it easier to find them and would acknowledge that they're not "books" in the usual sense. '''[[User:StalwartUK|<span style="color:red">Stalwart</span>]][[User talk:StalwartUK|<span style="color:salmon">UK</span>]]''' 23:25, April 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
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:I would support two categories, one for production assistants/associates and another for personal assistants. [http://www.anonymousproductionassistant.com/2011/09/01/pa_vs_pa/ They apparently are very different jobs]. - {{User:Archduk3/Sig/nature}} 17:25, April 13, 2014 (UTC)
:'''Support''', makes sense in my opinion, --[[User:Sennim|Sennim]] ([[User talk:Sennim|talk]]) 23:37, April 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
::'''Support'''. - {{User:Archduk3/Sig/nature}} 19:53, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
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::'''Support''' to the idea of Archduk3. [[User:ThomasHL|Tom]] ([[User talk:ThomasHL|talk]]) 20:04, April 13, 2014 (UTC)
   
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'''Agreed''', but I don't think we need the "personal assistant" cat, every PA (even if staffers got the use of the title sometimes wrong) I read about were working for the production (even if it entailed getting coffee), not as a personal "goofer" for any particular individual.--[[User:Sennim|Sennim]] ([[User talk:Sennim|talk]]) 13:10, April 14, 2014 (UTC)
===US VHS releases===
 
Per [[:Category:UK VHS releases]]. '''[[User:StalwartUK|<span style="color:red">Stalwart</span>]][[User talk:StalwartUK|<span style="color:salmon">UK</span>]]''' 15:34, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
 
   
 
== Maintenance categories ==
 
== Maintenance categories ==

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Missions and expeditions parent

I created Category:Missions and expeditions based on my rereading this, which had everyone actually agreeing that we should have the category, but not liking the name (myself in fact) or what category it should be under. I'm fine with the name as is now, and will do the work to change it if I misread that and we decide otherwise, but there wasn't a category decided to place this under, so we still need that. I did like the original suggestion of "Events", which could then cover Crossing, Fornax Disaster (categorized), Alien abduction, and other uncategorized pages, but since that failed the first time around, I'm open to suggestions. - Archduk3 14:57, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

I like Events as well; I'm not sure what else you could use instead.--31dot 09:25, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Multiple Actor Characters

Moved from category talk page before deletion:

Missed MA:CS, totally out of universe, misnamed, I can go on...

Articles listed in this category included Ishka, Christopher Pike, Zefram Cochrane, Tora Ziyal, and Alexander Rozhenko. -- sulfur (talk) 00:35, March 10, 2014 (UTC)

Oppose, for obvious reasons. - Archduk3 01:45, March 10, 2014 (UTC)
Oppose. I can only agree. Tom (talk) 18:53, March 10, 2014 (UTC)

Production POV categories

Reference CD-ROMs

A seperate category for the CD-ROMs that currently lie inside Category:Reference books. This I believe would make it easier to find them and would acknowledge that they're not "books" in the usual sense. StalwartUK 23:25, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

Support, makes sense in my opinion, --Sennim (talk) 23:37, April 19, 2013 (UTC)
Support. - Archduk3 19:53, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
Support. Tom (talk) 18:53, March 10, 2014 (UTC)

Reference books into individual series

I suggest we create relevant categories underneath Category:Reference books for each of the relevant series. For example, a Category:Star Trek: The Next Generation reference books for things like the Star Trek: The Next Generation Companion, and Category:Star Trek: Deep Space Nine reference books for the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion etc. Thoughts? --| TrekFan Open a channel 18:52, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

How many are there that would fall into each category? Can you put together a list on a sub-User page that would break them down into each grouping? -- sulfur (talk) 19:29, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
While I like the idea, I share Sulfur's "concern". I've taken a look through the list and have noticed that relatively few are series specific (TOS perhaps having the most), many of them cross-series.--Sennim (talk) 10:28, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

Production Assistant sub cat

I'd like to propose the category Category:PA as a sub under [[::Category:Production staff]]. The reason for the (commonly used) abbreviation is that these people are referred to as "Production Assistant", "Personal Assistant" as well as "Production Associate". The reason for the proposal is that this was a bonafide paid official position within the franchise (unlike interns for example) as the lowest entry level. They were, as some called them self, "goofers", "whipping boy/girl" or "errand boy/girl", tasked with menial jobs. Some of them went on to more senior positions, having started as such, like Jim Martin, David Takemura, Dana White and Bill George, but many did not, like Rod Roddenberry. Star Trek: The Magazine Volume 1, Issue 3 mentions another few of the latter who have worked in anonymity. Furthermore, they often performed their duties across departments and are therefore not really department specific.--Sennim (talk) 10:10, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

I would support two categories, one for production assistants/associates and another for personal assistants. They apparently are very different jobs. - Archduk3 17:25, April 13, 2014 (UTC)
Support to the idea of Archduk3. Tom (talk) 20:04, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

Agreed, but I don't think we need the "personal assistant" cat, every PA (even if staffers got the use of the title sometimes wrong) I read about were working for the production (even if it entailed getting coffee), not as a personal "goofer" for any particular individual.--Sennim (talk) 13:10, April 14, 2014 (UTC)

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