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Throughout the last weeks, I've noticed a severe lag on our Special:RecentChanges page. I've just tested that using a debugger, and found that getting our RC (last 50 edits, nothing special; just the page HTML itself without other resources) often takes up to 14,000(!) milli-seconds, more than 13,000 of which are spent idling, waiting for a response.

The RC page of MA/de takes much less than that, about 1,600 milli-seconds on average. Other pages on MA/en are served "fast enough" as well, so it doesn't seem to be a Wikia (or even general MA) problem but one with our RC page specifically(DPL comes to mind). Is anyone else noticing this as well? -- Cid Highwind 13:13, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Might it be worth removing the DPL and trying the same experiment? If it is the DPL, perhaps we split those things off to another location instead... -- sulfur 13:21, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, good idea. :) Blanking the whole section made our RC load as fast as that of MA/de, and then reintroducing some of the template calls that contain a DPL changed nothing. It seems to be Template:Pages needing citation that is the culprit here. Changing its call to not use "randomcount" on the whole list made it a little better, but loading times were still in the 8-12 seconds range. Even changing its call to completely resemble that of Template:Featured article candidates didn't help much, so I guess it is the size of the category (<10 vs. >300) that matters here. I've disabled that listing for the moment, and we should discuss whether we need it on RC at all. -- Cid Highwind 14:32, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

If we're serious about this, then it probably doesn't need to be on the RC, but the editing portal is the only page I know of that always has some serious lag when compared to the rest of the site. That said, MA seems to always be slower than any other wiki I visit, regardless of who is hosting. This has been mentioned to me by others users a few times as well, so I'm pretty sure it isn't just on my end. - Archduk3 16:54, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

I think that having to wait for 13 seconds (more for the complete load including resources) is not just "serious lag", but borders on "unusable" - even more if the part that makes it laggy is just a minor thing, anyway (why just pna-cite, not all pna, or current deletions?), and apparently not really used at all (or else we shouldn't have piled up more than 300 pna-cites). I'm currently working through those {{incite}}s, and am removing stuff to the talk page that hasn't been properly cited for a good period of time (and could use some help, if anyone is interested). Perhaps we can return that feature later, if it works quickly enough at that point. -- Cid Highwind 17:07, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

I try to remove a handful of incites every now and then, but its hard to make much of a dint as one person. ;-) Glad to have you aboard Cid. You might find this list handy.–Cleanse ( talk | contribs ) 01:16, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

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