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So, that's complicated to say the least.

http://trekmovie.com/2012/07/17/exclusive-orci-says-star-trek-tv-talks-getting-real-declares-movie-tie-in-comics-game-as-canon/

Which, if it's canon that would mean adding all of the TNG character's from "Countdown" to the article section (ie. B4 becomes Data), or any of the activities of JJ-verse Alternate Reality characters in the comics (ie. Gary Mitchel, or anything that the crew does in the comic & games). Or calling "Countdown" itself as canon. Now Memory Alpha defines licensed work as not-canon however nobody involved in the production has really declared any licensed work as canon (aside from the Jerri Taylor "Voyager" novels, but those were eventually shown to be non-canon by the show itself).

So, uh, like I said, complicated. Thoughts?

204.187.150.30 05:41, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Please see this already existing discussion, but there will probably be no changes at this time. There isn't really a single person running Star Trek right now which reviews materials to decide what is canon, which makes it hard to pick what is and what isn't, so separating out all licensed products is probably the best way to go right now. 31dot (talk) 09:18, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
Also, note his comments in the comments where he back-tracks, stating:
please. have a little fun. i said and have said exactly what you just said forever, but Pascale pushed me, he wont give up! i have said a million times that we cant determine what is canon. on this day, i said something else. “consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds”'
As noted, one person does not determine canon (he's not even an employee of Paramount or Bad Robot, merely a writer on the new films, and advisor on the comics). -- sulfur (talk) 10:26, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
Plus, it's beyond subjective to claim what is or isn't "true" Trek material.

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