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Sulfur, AD has now misused his admin powers by immediately deleting an image that I tried to temporarily restore for discussion purposes (something we have done time and again without anyone raising a brow). If I could have finished that, it would have shown how erratic his "opinion" about that whole stuff really is: there are images in the history of the now-deleted images that AD does not want to allow being deleted in other cases, as can be read [[Memory Alpha talk:Image use policy#User generated reproductions and other such things|here]]. Again, deal with that, please - and not just by a single comment because that worked out so well last time. I will be off for the night, and check back tomorrow. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 20:34, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
 
Sulfur, AD has now misused his admin powers by immediately deleting an image that I tried to temporarily restore for discussion purposes (something we have done time and again without anyone raising a brow). If I could have finished that, it would have shown how erratic his "opinion" about that whole stuff really is: there are images in the history of the now-deleted images that AD does not want to allow being deleted in other cases, as can be read [[Memory Alpha talk:Image use policy#User generated reproductions and other such things|here]]. Again, deal with that, please - and not just by a single comment because that worked out so well last time. I will be off for the night, and check back tomorrow. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 20:34, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
   
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:Cid has misused his admin powers by attempting to restore an image directly after it was deleted because it was unused, which was a reason mentioned in the IfD discussion where Cid participated, so he shouldn't have been the one to restore the image anyway because this is all a giant pissing contest because he's a giant dick. If not archiving a discussion from a location where discussions aren't archived is part of the reasoning for Cid wanting "something done" about me, then who here is the irrational one? I won't pussy foot around my "requests" either like he will, so here's it flat out: Sulfur, Cid should be blocked if he continues acting like this. You're free to make any decision you want of course, I'm not going to try and strong arm you into one, like ''some people''. - {{User:Archduk3/Sig/nature}} 20:50, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
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== ProfessorTrek ==
 
Please be aware my ProfessorTrek account has been hijacked and the password changed and I therefore no longer have the use of it. Could you please make a broadcast announcement that any posts are not me, or could you help me regain my account. Thanks
 
Please be aware my ProfessorTrek account has been hijacked and the password changed and I therefore no longer have the use of it. Could you please make a broadcast announcement that any posts are not me, or could you help me regain my account. Thanks
   

Revision as of 20:50, February 15, 2012

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For older discussions, see the 2006 archives, the 2007 archives, the 2008 archives, the 2009 archives, the 2010 archives, or the 2011 archives.

The Mark of Gideon edit

Your move of the page number is fine. But I used four dots in the ellipsis because it spanned sentences. Separately, I italicize the quotation marks as well as the quotation so that the marks will hug the text. If they are not italic, they stand apart from the text and are asymmetrical. Spike-from-NH 04:27, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

MA's style on quotes is to put the italics inside the double quotes. It's a style choice carried out on 30k+ pages. Please use that style instead. In terms of the ellipsis, if you are editing out words, the proper style is "word" "space" "ellipsis" "space" "word" such as "start ... finish". Thus the changes. -- sulfur 11:55, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Block

The block was made by Sulfur.

   Reason given: This username or IP address is prevented from editing across the entire Wikia network due to vandalism or other disruption. 

If you believe this is in error, please contact Wikia. The blocker also gave this additional reason: spam.

   Start of block: 15:22, December 29, 2011
   Expiry of block: 15:22, March 29, 2012
   Intended blockee: 198.54.202.210
   Block ID: #26455
   Current IP address: 196.25.255.218

I'm unsure of why I've been blocked,I've only posted on my wiki, maybe Its my non-static ip... User page: http://realmofmagyk.wikia.com/wiki/User:M.Eales

Thanks 196.25.255.194 07:28, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

That's a dynamic IP assigned by your provider. You'll need to restart your cable modem or DSL box to get a new one. -- sulfur 11:52, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
Not sure why Wikia-wide blocks are discussed here instead of community.wikia - but I see there's a difference between the "intended blockee" IP and the "current" IP - and the actual IP of user is yet another one. Could be some stupid cache server again, where block warnings are sometimes cached and served to other logged-out users whether appropriate or not. Solution in that case: force reload, or log in. -- Cid Highwind 12:05, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
It's because my name is on it and people come here rather than asking elsewhere. *shrug* -- sulfur 12:17, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

It disappeared for some time, but It's come back, I tried what you suggested again Cid, but It doesn't seem to work :\. --198.54.202.194 14:27, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

It's the same block. It's not going away. The same thing applies. Look, you've got a different IP now, so work with that. -- sulfur 14:29, January 13, 2012 (UTC)
It seems to be linked with my username, cause until I log in I've got no problem. I also tried getting unblocked, but that didn't work either :\.--196.25.255.194 14:32, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Image policy discussion

As you suggested discussing it in more detail, it would be great if you joined Memory Alpha talk:Image use policy#Policy clarification regarding "fanmade" images. Thanks. -- Cid Highwind 12:18, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Accusations against me

There are severe accusations against me floating around, and I want them settled: [1], [2].

Is it correct that I'm "wikilawyering", a "charlatan", a "snake oil salesman", abusing the system, "repugnant in the extreme" or in all those other ways a bad person (you name it, I've been called it)? Then please do your job, warn me about it, and tell me how to behave properly about it from now on.

Or, if that is not the case, is Archduk way out of his way insulting me in all those ways just because some discussion doesn't work out as he wants it to be - basically trying to bully his way through it? I believe that to be the case - and, at least, some people agree with me in my interpretation of what policies actually state and don't state. So, if this is the case, then please do your job and warn him and tell him how to behave properly from now on.

Or do it with both of us - or state that you don't care and want us to continue that debacle - I don't care, do what you think is the correct way from here. I really just want to know where I stand in this shit. -- Cid Highwind 14:35, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Categories

Do you know what we have to do to get the category box in the editor disabled as the default? - Archduk3 21:57, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Not sure that we can anymore. But I will inquire. -- sulfur 22:36, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Let me know how that shakes out. - Archduk3 15:43, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

TNG-R

{{Corresponding original}}, {{Corresponding remastered}}, and {{Remastered image}} all need to be updated. You seemed to have an idea about this, at least for the remastered images template, so I'd like to know what you had in mind before I make any changes to them, and most likely request a bot run for the corresponding ones. - Archduk3 00:10, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Let me take a look at things -- I've been a bit ill the last few days, but I'll take a peek again at what I was thinking about before. -- sulfur 00:15, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Cool, no rush, we got at least a week for most of it. I was just going to stick a switch call at {{{1}}} for them, but I figured you might know some way to use the citation or something. Also, hope you're feeling better soon. :) - Archduk3 00:25, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Future's End discussion

I'm not sure why you posted a warning to not continue the discussion, as I had already said that "I'm not going to further debate semantics" and was done with it. --31dot 17:47, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

I agree. The matter has been settled. --Defiant 17:55, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
That was said last time this inane argument came up. It's a stupid argument and shouldn't happen again. So, for future reference, the answer should be always simple. Did a production person mention it? No? Then it's not a reference. -- sulfur 17:56, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
If that's your understanding, I suggest you find a dictionary, sulfur. Just like 31dot, I'm no longer willing to be drawn into this discussion. --Defiant 18:07, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
Then don't respond. For MA's purposes, it is not a reference. -- sulfur 18:08, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)That's the point I put forth and I further stated that I had finished. If you're saying that I shouldn't have made that point, then I respectfully disagree, as I initially interpreted Defiant as saying he had disagreed with that. I respect your views and have no wish to extensively discuss this- but I don't see what I did wrong.--31dot 18:08, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Sulfur, I can't make any sense out of the first sentence in your last post. If your understanding of the word "reference" is what you described it as in your first post here, I suggest you find a dictionary – end of. Please don't try to backchat me and be so rude just because you believe you're in the right. Saying outright that "it's not a reference" and then repeating that with the qualifier "for MA's purposes" just makes it clear you don't have an overall clear understanding of this discussion. I've agreed with the latter, but I will never agree with such an incorrect statement as the former. --Defiant 18:29, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
If you and/or others want to continue deciding to deviate away from the norms of the English language, that's generally fine with me, but these differences and their specifics should still be noted in the policy pages, where we currently have abbreviations like "cm", etc. However, I would strongly recommend not doing such a thing with "reference" (even though this is the only way I will accept your suggested usage for it), due to the extreme risk that your proposed altered definition for that word may end up confusing newbies and/or users who are not entirely educated about the term. --Defiant 19:01, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
Once again, you've totally missed the point. We're not deviating from the English language. The English language states that a reference is something that alludes to something else. In the case of MA and Star Trek, if a production person doesn't say that they meant to do that, then we do not consider it a "reference" worth noting. Keep it simple. There is no confusion that way. -- sulfur 19:09, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
No, once again, you miss the point. I'm getting tired of stating it, but if your understanding of the word "reference" is still what you've suggested it is, go find a dictionary. Don't keep saying the same thing without backing it up. --Defiant 20:16, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
I did.
The action of mentioning or alluding to something
Again, everything is a reference according to that description and your apparent view of things. So, here on Memory Alpha, this is our approach to what we will list as a "reference":
If a production person doesn't say that they meant to do that, then we do not consider it a "reference" worth noting.
It's simple really. -- sulfur 21:16, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
Fine, I'm happy with that. Although, once again, you're unwittingly demonstrating your extreme ignorance about the discussion. But okay, whatever. --Defiant 21:24, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Spam issue

Moved to VSTF wiki

VSTF Wiki Criterion

What is the criterion that allows you to edit VSTF Wiki? --IanPlaystationNerd 16:34, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

Be email verified. -- sulfur 16:58, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of disputed images

Sulfur, I'm asking you as a neutral admin to deal with this: diff. As you can see, Archduk3 removed this discussion - although he was involved in the discussion and as such should not resolve it - although there wasn't even a consensus for deletion - although he himself claims that images without proper citation (of which there's one in the image history) mustn't be deleted but instead be added to some category - and without archiving the discussion anywhere. He also removed other traces of the discussion we had, including existing usages of these images: [3], File Talk:Map alpha quadrant.jpg. All of that is very much out of line for an admin, so I feel it is necessary to get involved. I will also cross-post this to 31dot. If you don't care about getting involved, let me know soon. -- Cid Highwind 19:44, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

These images were deleted because they were unused in their original intent, and never were going to be. If Cid wanted them kept around indefinitely, because his ego needs stroking, them maybe he shouldn't have sulked away in the middle of a policy discussion. A month is more than enough time to close something around here, and if Cid can't be bothered to show up in that time and finish the conversation, then maybe he shouldn't be contributing here anymore. God knows this place will get along fine without his bullshit and insistent, unconstructive complaining.
By the way Cid, this isn't my talk page, and I don't see any need to re-post this on 31dot's or yours, but if you have a problem with me, the "guideline" (since incomplete and non-enacted ones now seem to count) says you should have come to me first, where I would have explained why you're wrong and acting like a child right now. You yourself said you were fine with them being deleted, but I guess you're just a liar. This was all just a ego fueled power play anyway, so why start acting like the authority figure you're suppose to be now, right? - Archduk3 20:15, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

Sulfur, AD has now misused his admin powers by immediately deleting an image that I tried to temporarily restore for discussion purposes (something we have done time and again without anyone raising a brow). If I could have finished that, it would have shown how erratic his "opinion" about that whole stuff really is: there are images in the history of the now-deleted images that AD does not want to allow being deleted in other cases, as can be read here. Again, deal with that, please - and not just by a single comment because that worked out so well last time. I will be off for the night, and check back tomorrow. -- Cid Highwind 20:34, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

Cid has misused his admin powers by attempting to restore an image directly after it was deleted because it was unused, which was a reason mentioned in the IfD discussion where Cid participated, so he shouldn't have been the one to restore the image anyway because this is all a giant pissing contest because he's a giant dick. If not archiving a discussion from a location where discussions aren't archived is part of the reasoning for Cid wanting "something done" about me, then who here is the irrational one? I won't pussy foot around my "requests" either like he will, so here's it flat out: Sulfur, Cid should be blocked if he continues acting like this. You're free to make any decision you want of course, I'm not going to try and strong arm you into one, like some people. - Archduk3 20:50, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

ProfessorTrek

Please be aware my ProfessorTrek account has been hijacked and the password changed and I therefore no longer have the use of it. Could you please make a broadcast announcement that any posts are not me, or could you help me regain my account. Thanks

--72.77.135.164 20:43, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

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